Putting Out the Vibe Random observations from my day-to-day life

May 17, 2016

Is it legal to wait in the intersection at a green light?

Filed under: Colorado,Maps,Random Observations — Tags: — Matthew @ 4:19 pm

Drivers in Colorado are notoriously bad. Not FIB bad but still poor nonetheless. Although this is my opinion, it’s also supported by un-citable anecdotes from our midwestern friends who are CO transplants. You may be thinking to yourself, “self: how is this possible in a state with winter weather and roads that rise to 14,130 feet?” My theories:

  1. The Colorado Front Range doesn’t receive perpetual winters the way that other states do. Large snow storms often melt within 24 hours because of fluctuating winter temperatures which frequently exceed 50 degrees. Sure, CO drivers experience winter conditions when driving to the mountains but these are elective winter conditions (I can choose to drive into winter conditions for a six hour ski trip and then return to 50 degrees in Denver). Contrast this with the conditions in which I took my drivers test – a blizzard with single digit temperatures near Milwaukee – and it becomes pretty clear that people from states like WI grow up practicing winter driving.
  2. CO has become such a transient state that we now have a melting pot of all different kinds of bad drivers (California, Texas, New York, etc.). We commonly discuss that no one is actually from Colorado and meeting “natives” is like seeing a white rhino.

With all of this in mind, I’ve noticed an interesting trend in Colorado:  When turning left at a green light, many drivers don’t enter the intersection and instead wait behind the white stop line. The result at congested intersections is that once the light turns red, no one gets to turn. Rather, if cars wait past the stop line they can safely turn once the light turns yellow. Have you ever waited for several cycles of a light behind a (California license plate) driver who won’t edge their car into the center of the intersection? Growing up I would have found this ridiculous but in Colorado, it seems to be frequent (especially when I’m rushing home from work to catch tip off a badger basketball game). This is caused by each state defining their own traffic laws and as a result, many of Colorado’s transplant residents don’t know how to turn left. Interestingly, based on the CO Traffic Code MTC 604, it is legal in Colorado to wait in an intersection (as long as you’re not hindering traffic flow) and then proceed to turn once oncoming traffic has stopped. I set out to understand which states are ruining this interpretation of the law and my results are shown below.

Legal to wait in center of intersection? States
Legal to wait in center of intersection 28
Legal – but only for one vehicle at a time to be in center of intersection 1
Illegal – must wait behind stop line 11
? (unable to find reference to law) 10
  50

Left Turn Map

 

State Legality?  
Alabama Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Alaska Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Arizona Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Arkansas Illegal – must wait behind stop line source
California Illegal – must wait behind stop line source
Colorado Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Connecticut Illegal – must wait behind stop line source
Delaware Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Florida Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Georgia Illegal – must wait behind stop line source
Hawaii Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Idaho Illegal – must wait behind stop line source
Illinois Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Indiana Legal – but only for one vehicle at a time to be in center of intersection source
Iowa Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Kansas Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Kentucky Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Louisiana Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Maine Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Maryland Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Massachusetts Illegal – must wait behind stop line source
Michigan Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Minnesota Illegal – must wait behind stop line source
Mississippi Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Missouri Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Montana Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Nebraska ?  
Nevada Legal to wait in center of intersection source
New Hampshire ?  
New Jersey ?  
New Mexico Illegal – must wait behind stop line source
New York Legal to wait in center of intersection source
North Carolina Legal to wait in center of intersection source
North Dakota Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Ohio Illegal – must wait behind stop line source
Oklahoma Illegal – must wait behind stop line source
Oregon Illegal – must wait behind stop line source
Pennsylvania ?  
Rhode Island ?  
South Carolina Legal to wait in center of intersection source
South Dakota ?  
Tennessee Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Texas Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Utah Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Vermont ?  
Virginia ?  
Washington Legal to wait in center of intersection source
West Virginia ?  
Wisconsin Legal to wait in center of intersection source
Wyoming ?  

A few notes:

  • I’ll caution you that I performed this research on a state-by-state basis and many states blend safety recommendations into their traffic codes (laws). Therefore, it’s very possible that I have mistakes above so please let me know if anything needs updating.
  • Although I thoroughly searched, some states (Wyoming, West Virginia, Virginia, Vermont, South Dakota, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New Hampshire, and Nebraska) don’t seem to take a stand on the legality of turning left at all and I couldn’t find citable sources (please let me know if you find differently for your state)
  • Some areas have city or county ordinances which contradict the state law relating to waiting in the center of an intersection. Austin, Texas has been promoting a well-publicized “Don’t Block the Box” campaign which, as far as I can tell, contradicts this article from the Texas State Troopers.
  • Many states across the country are implementing flashing yellow turn arrows instead of solid green lights because research shows that drivers will use more caution when turning and may be less likely to mistakenly assume that they have the right-of way over oncoming traffic.

January 10, 2009

The Disneyland of Mexican Restaurants!

Filed under: Colorado,Hilarity,TV — Tags: , , , — Matthew @ 3:02 pm

While in Colorado during winter break I accomplished three significant things:

  1. Spent time with Dave and Brea
  2. Skied four days with Lee in Keystone, Vail, and Copper Mountain (my first time at Copper)
  3. Ate the Mexican dinner of a lifetime at Casa Bonita!

If you’re unfamiliar with the restaurant, this requires a bit of background.  The official Casa Bonita website provides some basic information, as does the Casa Bonita wikipedia page, however, the true essence of the experience is best captured in the South Park episode, Casa Bonita.  Here is the full episode: Episode 711 (Original Air Date: Nov 12, 2003)

We approached our visit with caution because I was told to prepare for a months worth of indigestion after my all you can eat Mexican dinner.  One Mexican platter and 5 tacos later, I realized that this advice was… well, pretty accurate.  However, what they lacked in quality of food, they more than made up for with ambiance, cliff diving, Black Bart’s cave, strolling mariachis, and skiball in the amusement arcade.  I wanted to include video comparisons of our trip and Cartman’s, but WordPress doesn’t let you embed the video that I wanted to.  Check out these clips (Mexican Disneyland, More Sopapillas, Please!, Totally Worth Juvenile Hall) and then see below how our experience mirrored Eric Cartman’s.

 

Eric Cartman’s Experience
Our Experience
Cartman at Casa Bonita

Casa Bonita

Lee and I at Casa Bonita

Cartman at Black Bart's Cave

Group at Casa Bonita

Cartman near Casa Bonita Cliff Diver
Cartman - top of Casa Bonita Waterfall
Casa Bonita Cliff Diver
Cartman eating
Group eating at Casa Bonita
Cartman taken from his food
Sopapillas
Cartman in Black Bart's cave
Skiball
Strolling Mariachis
Mexican Manger

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